Re: Where's the proof?

Posted by maxmccauley on 01-02-2008 in Do you believe in life outside the earth?

Where is the proof that aliens do not exist?

I do not believe--although I must admit I did not read every post thoroughly--that anyone in this thread claimed aliens definitely exist. I certainly did not, and for anyone to do so would be without any kind of evidence.

"Many of you think that aliens exist without any creditable evidence at all, that's is really quite amazing! Well if we can all make bullshit claims like that then, shit, the flying spaghetti monster must be real."

I am sorry but I really don't think this analogy applies. We aren't talking about a complete fabrication here--we know for a fact that life can and does exist somewhere in the universe. It exists on this planet. We have no evidence, however, of a flying spaghetti monster. It is quite a different thing to randomly imagine a creature and attempt to prove its existence than to infer the possibility that because we know life exists in this spec of the universe it might be possible that exists somewhere in the rest of it.

I do not believe I need to quote myself from earlier to demonstrate the size of the universe--we all know this but it is being overlooked. It is not a leap of faith to believe in a strong possibility of life outside of this earth. Life developed here--what reason do we have to believe that it could not have happened in the sextillion other solar systems in the universe?

"Here's my take: Evolution takes billions of years, and I am sure "aliens" will sprout one day but they will not come to fruition in our life time, our era of existence."

Claims like this are made and we are told that we have no proof? Let me ask you this question--why do you assume that "aliens" must be intelligent life? Ok, evolution takes over a billion years, but the question asked in this thread is not of the existence of intelligence life...just plain life. Bacteria could exist on another planet somewhere and that would qualify. If you wish to believe that because there is no solid proof there is not simple BACTERIA on one of the sextillion (conservative estimate) other planets in the universe, by all means go ahead. I would argue that is a hell of a lot less likely than the alternative, though.

In response to: Where's the proof?

I've been looking at all the posts and people are very hopeful and I suppose the title of this debate could inspire hope the with words in the context of "believe", however for debating purposes I'll ask the obvious question: Where's the proof?

Many of you think that aliens exist without any creditable evidence at all, that's is really quite amazing! Well if we can all make bullshit claims like that then, shit, the flying spaghetti monster must be real. Yes I get it, space is big perhaps infinitely big so our logic tends to shift to...other organisms existing?

Here's my take: Evolution takes billions of years, and I am sure "aliens" will sprout one day but they will not come to fruition in our life time, our era of existence. The other thing is, I am sure organisms lived before us as well but because space is so vast, we will never come to learn about their existence. Could I be wrong about that statement...sure, but it's what I believe.

Do aliens exist outside the earth? Not in our lifetime, I am sure mathematical probabilities will back me up. Prove me wrong, I dare you, show me the evidence.