Re: Re: Re: Don't forget the enterprise

Posted by Suhail on 01-26-2008 in What's the best language for web development

"If you think enterprise applications suck what kind of software do you think is running Wall Street, payroll & accounts receivable, even Amazon and Google back end systems?"

I don't know what Wallstreet is running but can you validate they are running what you say they are? Where's the evidence.

I've interviewed with Amazon, they use their own in-house language.

Google is primarily a C++, Python shop. They do, do Java not necessarily JSP, I don't like to assume for the sake of an argument first and foremost.

"don't know if you do online banking but all of that is done over an enterprise service bus. Leaving that up to PHP and kiddy scripts would put a huge damper on the lives of hundreds of millions of people. Thats the keyword, enterprise isn't just for the million that Facebook and social networks serve, but the masses of people who need data 99.999999999% of the time."

I don't know what you're talking about, there are LOTS of services not coded with Java that have great uptime. I am well aware you go to ASU and you know for fact that the course registration system there is NOT reliable, PeopleSoft IS an enterprise solution.

The only reason why enterprise software may make JSP a big player is because of major players in the field are using it. Major players are not necessarily correct.

In response to: Re: Re: Don't forget the enterprise

If you think enterprise applications suck what kind of software do you think is running Wall Street, payroll & accounts receivable, even Amazon and Google back end systems? Try running that stuff on PHP and watch everything come crashing down. Sure enterprise isn't sexy but it has its place in the world.

JSP is a technology, Java is open source get your facts straight. There are many open-source tag libraries for JSP - ever heard of Spring or Struts? I don't know if you do online banking but all of that is done over an enterprise service bus. Leaving that up to PHP and kiddy scripts would put a huge damper on the lives of hundreds of millions of people. Thats the keyword, enterprise isn't just for the million that Facebook and social networks serve, but the masses of people who need data 99.999999999% of the time.