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        <title>Does might make right? -- America&#039;s global role</title>
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        <description>What should the role of the U.S. be in moderation of international conflicts and in the deterrence of nations that might pose military threat?</description>
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        <pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 21:56:26 GMT</pubDate>
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                  <title>America...just sit a few out.</title>
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                            I think that America should just sit a few rounds out when it comes to international conflicts. Some have needed a strong force like America to kick up some dirt but some have just ended up as huge catastrophies. Iraq is a mess because Americans try to fix every problem they come across and don&#039;t really want to do anything affective because of fear of the media. for things to get done the media can not be present, if everyone knows about all that is going on in Iraq than someone is bound to dissagree and then people want to pull out because it is &quot;too violent, or too oppresive.&quot; to get what needs to be done, done some things have to be left un-advretised. Some times we just have to let things play out and wait for our moment to really help.<br/><br/><a href="/debates/posts/create/83/697">Reply to post</a>                        ]]>
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                  <pubDate>Tue, 4 Mar 2008 11:39:55 GMT</pubDate>
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                  <title>Re: Re: If might always made right, we&#039;d all be in trouble</title>
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                            I understand what you mean when you question the hypocrisy of our involvement in institutions such as the United Nations, and how a more interventionist approach to policing the world could solve for such atrocities, however the problem with this is that it is not in our best interests.<br />
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It is clear that the United States has an ETHICAL obligation to intervene in such instances but do you actually believe that the United States has anything tangible to gain from their intervention? Your explanations ignore the domestic repercussions of policing the world. Our military is already stretched to the brink with our current commitments, and intervening elsewhere would not be able to be fulfilled. The problem with your reasoning is that even if the United States should be interventionist, it is not possible under the status quo.<br />
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How do you propose the United States function alone, without the help of other superpowers, in policing the world?<br/><br/><a href="/debates/posts/create/83/175">Reply to post</a>                        ]]>
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                  <pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 18:05:01 GMT</pubDate>
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                  <title>Re: If might always made right, we&#039;d all be in trouble</title>
                  <link>http://www.outquib.com/debates/posts/view/171</link>
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                            There is a somewhat dangerous historical misprision here.  The paradox of American power is not that America has been a Global Policeman, and rather that it has not.  The problem is that America is not an Empire, not that it is one.  The C.I.A (an organization which should be extirpated as soon as possible) is an exemplification of the Isolationist equation: Inaction=Negative Action.  It has managed to protect and uphold Nothing.  The United States is not a superpower, not a &#039;hyperpuissance&#039; (as a mediocre French diplomat once termed it, to the choral assent of Attenuated Europe); it needs to become one.  <br />
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What appears to underlie your position (and your disposition) is a notion that you appear to hold of manifest cultural differences, i.e. the possibility of a Different Morality.  The prescription which proceeds logically from that presumption, of course, is that one must respect cultural differences.  <br />
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Moral seriousness, however, has never involved Politeness.  Your &#039;Good natured-man&#039; is a frivolous and insouciant sort of subhuman; nothing more.  Thus Hazlitt:<br />
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                &#039;A person of this kind has no feeling of anger or detestation, when you tell him of                         the devastation of a province, or the massacre of the inhabitants of a town, or the enslaving of a people.  But if his dinner is spoilt by a lump of soot falling down the chimney, he is thrown into the utmost confusion, and can hardly regain himself for the whole day.&#039;<br />
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One should always insist upon the superiority of Athens to Jerusalem, and this indeed is one of the proofs: All thought, for Greece, was Agonized, i.e. presented in competition with itself.  Whether there is an ethics that is &#039;apodictically certain&#039; (as Uncle Manny would have us believe) does not concern me; it is merely the potency of your Ethic, of your Metaphysic, that matters in this world.  America has every right to inflict itself upon the rest of the world, to subsume it all under its own &#039;Will to Lycurgus,&#039; the Law it gives to itself and then to its Sphere.  Our enemies seek to do nothing less; we should meet them on our terms.<br />
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It is a very glib and stupid assumption to make: &#039;different culture, different morality.&#039;  There is no such thing; either one possesses an Erotics of Morality (as Shelley adumbrates in the prose Defense of Poetry), or one does not.  Only anomalies (meaning sociopaths, not cannibals) lack access to that Erotics.  The capacity to Feel is, as far as I can tell, universal; Culture and Religion can have the effect, merely, of attenuating that capacity; that, and only that, is a Cultural Difference.<br />
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Our respect for the &#039;International Community&#039; (as, indeed, our Respect for Islam) needs to be abjured.  The United Nations allows China and Russia (the two countries of the world which appear to think solitarily in Commercial terms, which have actively aided the Iranian and Syrian regimes, the genocide of Rwanda, the Fedayeen Saddam, etc. bloody etc.) to act as Peremptory Agents.  Your &#039;International Community&#039; is an historical Parody.<br />
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                  <pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 14:47:59 GMT</pubDate>
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                  <title>Re: If might always made right, we&#039;d all be in trouble</title>
                  <link>http://www.outquib.com/debates/posts/view/129</link>
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                            Isolation vs. Intervention has been an ongoing debate in America since the founding (isolation starting with Washington&#039;s Farewell Address and continuing until T. Roosevelt and especially Wilson&#039;s administration) and will likely continue to be a hot topic in the 21st century.  It is difficult to take a definite stance on either side and the issue probably needs to be handled on a case-by-case basis as America&#039;s position as the world&#039;s first global superpower has given us a responsibility unlike any before in human history.  Despite the reservations many Americans have about becoming the world&#039;s police--and the resentment that may be felt by countries in which we do intervene--I feel the United States is obligated to become involved in world affairs, especially those that could potentially affect long term national security.<br />
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Currently the focus is, as it should be, on the Middle East.  The difficulty in this region results from the long standing hatred held between people of Jewish and Islamic faiths.  In my opinion, participating in the creation of Israel after World War II committed America to helping improve international relations in the region.  We must now aid in the founding of a Palestinian state, forcing Israel to concede some of its demands (i.e. relinquishing part of Jerusalem for a Palestinian capital city).  It is unrealistic to hope for total peace in the Middle East, but maybe it is possible for a settlement that could lead to vast reduction in military hostility and divide the Holy Land fairly between the regions (possibly similarly to the way Cyprus is divided between a Greek and Turkish side as a result of a conflict between the two ethnicities.)<br/><br/><a href="/debates/posts/create/83/129">Reply to post</a>                        ]]>
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                  <pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 10:49:13 GMT</pubDate>
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                  <title>Re: If might always made right, we&#039;d all be in trouble</title>
                  <link>http://www.outquib.com/debates/posts/view/122</link>
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                            This also introduces the questions of if there even exists such thing as &quot;universal morals&quot; or a &quot;universal right or wrong.&quot;  I agree, America has never been consistent, from policies to intercessions.  However, is it possible to be 100% unvarying in a world where there is no common consensus on what is right or wrong? Granted, America does come off as imposing their own standards to other nations; however, do they have a choice when no one true set of values even exists? This inner debate of whether or not America should intervene for instance arises every single time a new conflict arises.  There are going to be cohorts and adversaries with whatever decision any country-not only America-makes.  Each situation regardless of how similar they seem have their own intricacies that make them unique from one another-hence, can pragmatically the same approach be taken by America each and every single time? No two clashes are the same; hence, how can America be expected to approach these situations identically each time?<br/><br/><a href="/debates/posts/create/83/122">Reply to post</a>                        ]]>
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                  <pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 00:58:52 GMT</pubDate>
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                  <title>If might always made right, we&#039;d all be in trouble</title>
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                            While many assert America&#039;s responsibility as one of the world&#039;s last remaining superpowers to monitor nations that pose a military threat and play &quot;peacekeeper&quot; on the international front, the consequences to national sovereignty and U.S. moral standing are slowly but surely surfacing. When terms such as &#039;good and evil&#039; or &#039;right and wrong&#039; are employed in justifying intervention, people around the world are offended and our ability to secure the help of allies now and in the future is imposed upon. The inconsistency in our choices of mitigation may allow the international community to view the U.S. as imposing its own moral code and interests on defenseless countries around the world.<br />
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&quot;Ever since the Munich agreement and Pearl Harbor, with only a brief interruption during the decade after the Tet offensive, there has been a consensus that if Americans did not draw their defense perimeter far forward and confront foreign troubles in their early stages, those troubles would come to them at home. But because the United States is now the only superpower and WMDs have become more accessible, American intervention in troubled areas is not so much a way to fend off such threats as it is what stirs them up.&quot;<br />
--Richard K. Betts, &quot;The New Threat of Mass Destruction&quot;, Foreign Affairs<br />
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...(credibility &amp; consistency are part of the great responsibility that comes with great power too)<br />
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                  <pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 22:37:41 GMT</pubDate>
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