Replied to: Where's the proof?
Flying spaghetti monster....wow, what kind of books did you read as a child??
The truth is....we really don't know. Now I'm pretty skeptical myself about extraterrestrial life, but I don't want to completely shut the door on the chance that in another galaxy, in another solar system, there may very well be life out there. We just don't have the means to look that far. But like I said, I'm pretty skeptical about the whole "E.T. phone home" dealio
Posted on: 01-02-2008, 10:47 AM
Replied to: Where's the proof?
Where's the proof?!
no one can simply enter a conversation, fold his arms and say, "where's the proof," and expect that there will ever be definite proof of anything--at least in science. Where's the proof of string theory or theory of electromagnetism or theory of relativity or theory of evolution? There are endless mathematics, fossil records, and radiophysics that make these phenemena more than mere conjectures and into theories. However, it's quite difficult to actually prove these phenomena, because even if the evidence points in favor of the validity of the theories, there are always the "what ifs."
There is abundant evidence that prove that life HAS existed outside of earth. Take, for example, the meteor taken from antarctica that found fossil evidence of martian bacteria. Obviously, in the past, there has been life outside of our world...why not now? Take Urey's famous experiment that set up a microcosm of earth from eons ago in a bunch of beakers, and subjected them to environmental conditions evident of early earth...it was eventually deduced that life could have formed on earth given its specific environmental conditions at the time. It's been proven that those exact conditions exist in other planets today. so, it's quite possible that life could exist apart from us at this moment in time.
of course, there are a lot of controversial "proofs" of strange alien/ufo sightings in the past, which is a bit far fetched in my opinion. There are some really craazy things out there.. crop circles and wave frequencies unreachable by mankind's current technology that seem to float around in space... some people take that to be evidence of life outside of earth. Who knows?
In controversial settings like this, you kind of have to have FAITH. faith about the evidence and faith in knowing that the evidence is sufficient.
all in all, faith, unexplained phenomena, and some scientific evidence does point to the great possibility that life exists outside of earth.
Posted on: 01-02-2008, 10:19 PM
stephnauf is
undecided.
Religious perspective
I believe that a force called God created us and the Earth. And I say, if God created this planet and its inhabitants, why can’t it be possible for God to have done the same thing in a different galaxy?
No, we do not have proof of the existence of aliens, and hey, maybe we are never intended to find them. Don’t we have pets and keep them separated? We put the lizard in its box and the gerbil in its cage. I just don’t see any reason for there not to be life elsewhere, regardless of the absence of ‘substantial evidence’ that other life exists.
It just seems probable that if it is possible for this planet’s inhabitants to subsist, then it sure can be possible for the same thing to happen elsewhere in the far reaches that comprise space.
Posted on: 01-02-2008, 12:42 AM
I think it'd be pretty naive of us to consider earth born organisms to be the only ones in existence, or to even consider our definition of life to be the only one.
We need to search for life with an open mind, not just limiting the criteria for life to what makes "life as we know it" possible.
So yea, I think there's definitely life outside of the earth, but given the vastness of our universe it's highly unlikely we'll ever come into contact with any extraterrestrial beings.
Posted on: 01-01-2008, 6:28 PM
I've been looking at all the posts and people are very hopeful and I suppose the title of this debate could inspire hope the with words in the context of "believe", however for debating purposes I'll ask the obvious question: Where's the proof?
Many of you think that aliens exist without any creditable evidence at all, that's is really quite amazing! Well if we can all make bullshit claims like that then, shit, the flying spaghetti monster must be real. Yes I get it, space is big perhaps infinitely big so our logic tends to shift to...other organisms existing?
Here's my take: Evolution takes billions of years, and I am sure "aliens" will sprout one day but they will not come to fruition in our life time, our era of existence. The other thing is, I am sure organisms lived before us as well but because space is so vast, we will never come to learn about their existence. Could I be wrong about that statement...sure, but it's what I believe.
Do aliens exist outside the earth? Not in our lifetime, I am sure mathematical probabilities will back me up. Prove me wrong, I dare you, show me the evidence.
Posted on: 01-01-2008, 10:00 PM