33erk is
leaning towards herbivore
lets go through the drive-thru and pick up a carcass to eat
How would you feel if someone/something kept you in a cage, injected you with steroids and then slit your throat because they thought you tasted good? I know I wouldn't like it very much. Of course many don't think of it that way. Hey its just a brown patty i can pick up in the drive-through for cheap right? People don't know/don't care how they get it. If they had to get blood on their hands and see what actually happens, the pain and suffering, then maybe they'd think twice. But as it stands they can just pay other people to do the messy stuff for them, so they don't have to think about it. We just pay couple bucks and consume a carcass (have you ever noticed people don't say that? it's not very appetizing is it?).
peace.
Posted on: 12-23-2007, 7:53 PM
We have been eating meat for our survival as a race since we've been a race (however long one wishes to believe that is) and it is very natural for us to do so. Only very recently (especially in evolutionary terms) has it become possible to eat a vegetarian diet in a healthy matter. Consuming necessary amounts of protein, iron, etc. without eating meat was something that was unknown until the last generation or two.
If you choose to be a vegetarian, good for you. There is absolutely nothing wrong with it, it is probably a good thing. But don't try to make me feel guilty for eating meat...it is healthy (especially chicken and fish) and I enjoy the taste. I have canines, I'm supposed to eat meat.
Posted on: 12-22-2007, 1:03 AM
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I just want to say that it is not fair at all to compare humans to bears and coyotes. The fact that we have a brain, meaning a rational thinking one, is exactly what separates us from animals. The whole other animals do it therefore we can is crazy. I mean other animals eat their own offspring, does that justify humans eating their kids? In this matter I feel that it would be overall better if people would stop eating meat. It would be able to increase the amount of food being produced, along with ending the needless brutal slaughter of animals. Also it would be help with environmental concerns as gas from the numerous animals is actually having an effect on global warming and the like. However I also respect other people's choice to eat meat if they decide to, although I would encourage them to try to get slaughterhouses to kill animals more humanly, and treat them better before they are slaughtered.
Posted on: 12-21-2007, 3:34 PM
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people play the "animals high up in the food chain kill the lower ones" card quite often when I bring up this subject.
that is a completely different subject--in other words, it's basically comparing apples and oranges. Tertiary consumers kill animals lower on the food chain because they simply MUST. it's survival of the fittest. Even if we make the argument that we MUST eat meat to supplement our diet, why do we do it in such cruel ways, and why must we be so wasteful?
we, as humans, kill animals in extremely inhumane ways, and if you'd really like the minute gory details, look it up online.. find out how we kill for that oh-so-delicious and bloody steak that you may have for dinner tonight.
In addition to killing animals inhumanely, we kill MORE animals than we actually need--animals in the wild are not as wasteful as we are. What i'm trying to say is, why must we kill other animals like dolphins, dogs, cats, etc., if we already have enough vegetables and meat, at least in the more developed parts of the world?
Posted on: 12-19-2007, 1:10 PM
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What about animals such as coyotes and bears which kill other animals for food, is that inhumane? How is it different if you are a human or a bear?
Just because we have a brain that can make the decision to eat meat or not doesn't suddenly make killing animals for our food senseless or inhumane. I can understand that being wasteful leads to unnecessary butchering, and I don't agree at all with wastefulness, but where is the harm in eating a hamburger when there's some bear in Alaska eating fish as well?
Posted on: 12-19-2007, 1:51 AM
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Why do you seem to imply that killing a baby cow is worse than killing an adult cow, chicken, pig, <place another animal here>?
It doesn't quite make any sense to justify the senseless killing of other animals with the fact that we're wasteful of the current animals killed for mass human consumption. Maybe someone thinks snake tastes better, it's really irrelevant.
I don't see how eating a whale, dog, or cat is any different or less humane than eating a cow. If you want high critical thinking, think not to senselessly kill any animal in the world just because you have thumbs and a brain that works a few percent higher. It's of no significance to me if a cat is killed instead of a cow or vice versa, that act is all the same in my mind.
Your cafeteria probably kills chickens too, did you forget to mention that?
Posted on: 12-19-2007, 12:31 AM
Today at our oh-so-magnificent (NOT) school cafeteria, they served veal. Yes, ladies and germs...they served veal. How horrible is that?! They served a baby cow. Do you know HOW they kill these animals? It's so gruesome that I don't even want to get into the minute details of it. Anyhow, I got to thinking... we already kill so many animals--chickens, cows, pigs--for our daily consumption. Why must we kill other animals if we are already wasteful with the amount of seafood and meat that we buy and never finish eating? Why do some people eat snakes, dogs, cats, whales, dolphins.... why do people eat just about ANYTHING in the world, with the justification that we CAN, because we are human, and supposedly we have higher levels of critical thinking?!
Posted on: 12-18-2007, 1:55 PM
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